dan hurwitz is the ceo of this publicly traded company. stock is up 39%. business must be good. >> business is good and retail sales are very good. the american consumer has made a clear choice. they want value:convenience and tenants that occupy shopping centers offer value and convenience. that is what the consumers looking for. liz: is the consumer healthier than your ago? >> i think the consumer's not only healthier but more optimistic. they feel better about where they are in their jobs and better about their wages and worse about the fact the we are in any election cycle still lots of people particularly in ohio telling you how bad things are. you can't watch tv without negative adds that that doesn't impact retail sales or how people feel about their families and things are positive. liz: you have 1 twenty million square feet and 450 properties in the united states, brazil:-- which parts of the united states of looking stronger? >> our business is a local business. you can go into certain markets like phoenix where people criticize phoenix for years